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The Role of AJAX in Web 2.0 Apps: Schmidt vs Owyang

Google CEO Schmidt vs Web Strategist Owyang on the Role of AJAX in Web 2.0 Applications

As he consumed Eric Schmidt's press briefing during the Google CEO's mid-week stopover in Seoul, web strategist Jeremy Owyang posted a note on Twitter saying that he was "Laughing at Eric Schmidt's definition of Web 2.0..." – "He says that web 2.0 is AJAX. ROFL" Owyang wrote.

Google CEO Dr Eric Schmidt was in Korea to attend the Seoul Digital Forum

In Korea to attend the Seoul Digital Forum, Schmidt puzzled the blogosphere by describing Web 2.0 as "a different way of building applications using AJAX as the underlying technology." As if alternative approaches to building Rich Internet Applications, such as those made possible using OpenLaszlo or Microsoft Silverlight or Adobe AIR maybe didn't exist.

He was quick to move on to how the new generation of tools being introduced by Google (and others) would very soon be ushering in a very different application model, "Web 3.0" – which in turn he defined as applications that are pieced together which are relatively small, the data is in the cloud, apps can run on any device (PC or mobile), apps are very fast, very customizable, and distributed virally by social networks and/or e-mail, not bought in stores.

Canadian blogger Chris Dumke noted, after viewing the whole thing, appropriately enough, on a YouTube video:

"At first Schmidt refuses to indulge in “hype-terms”, such as Web 2.0 and others. But he can’t resist speaking about connected, atomic, high-performance Internet apps and risks calling this Web 3.0."

The discussion about defining Web 2.0 dates back at least as far 2005, when technology commentator Jonathan Boutelle madehis famous "AJAX != web 2.0" declaration.

"In fact, it is in many ways in opposition to Web 2.0, Boutelle wrote in July of that year. "AJAX applications create web-pages that are less machine-readable/linkable," he continued, whereas "Web 2.0 is about making websites machine readable so that content can squirt seamlessly between unrelated sites."

Boutelle took a particularly extreme position, mind you:

"Technologies like RSS, RESTian APIs, and XHTML/CSS are the core of Web 2.0. Social networks and tagging and attention are at the core of Web 2.0. Not rich client technologies like AJAX."
He was perhaps echoing a similarly extreme position staked out all the way back in 2004 by none other than Jef Bezos of Amazon, who at a conference in San Francisco declared:
"Web 1.0 was making the Internet for people. Web 2.0 is making the Internet better for computers."
The role of AJAX and Rich Internet Applications will be front, left, and center at next month's AJAXWorld Conference & Expo 2007 West in Silicon Valley. The AJAXWorld event has, in less than 18 months, grown from a single track, one-day seminar into a four-day international conference & expo, with more than 150 sessions delivered in 10 simultaneous tracks, by more than 120 faculty members.

Google speakers have frequently spoken at AJAXWorld in the past, from Adam Bosworth and Paul Rademacher to Adam Sah and Chris Schalk.

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The world’s leading Rich Internet Applications & Web 2.0 event is expected to attract more than 2,000 i-technology developers. AJAXWorld grew from a single track, one-day seminar, less than a year ago, into a four-day international conference & expo with more than 150 sessions delivered in ten simultaneous tracks, by more than 150 faculty members. 
Track 01: Rich Internet Applications
Track 02: Web 2.0 Enterprise Mashups
Track 03: Enterprise AJAX Applications
Track 04: RIA Frameworks & Toolkits
Track 05: Security in RIA Applications
Track 06: Server-Side AJAX
Track 07: iPhone AJAX Applications
Track 08: Silverlight – Flex – Java FX
Track 09: Bleeding-Edge AJAX Applications
Track 10: OpenLaszlo Diamond Track
The conference now includes the world famous AJAXWorld University's AJAX Developer Bootcamp, OpenLaszlo Track and Adobe Flex 3 Developer Bootcamp. This year’s AJAXWorld Expo Floor is expected to display bleeding edge RIA technologies from more than 75 leading AJAX vendors.

AJAXWorld 2007 East Conference & Expo Sponsored by the World's Top  Web 2.0 and RIA Technology Leaders!
AJAXWorld Conference & Expo 2007 East sponsors and exhibitors included: Laszlo Systems (Diamond Sponsor), JackBe (Platinum Sponsor), Adobe (Platinum Sponsor), Cynergy (Platinum Sponsor), Backbase (Gold Sponsor) Google (Gold Sponsor), Nexaweb (Gold Sponsor), ICEsoft (Gold Sponsor), Oracle (Gold Sponsor), Helmi Technologies (Gold Sponsor), JetBrains (Gold Sponsor), TIBCO (Gold Sponsor), Kapow Technologies (Gold Sponsor), Sun Microsystems (Silver Sponsor), Parasoft (Silver Sponsor), Servoy (Silver Sponsor), Etelos (Silver Sponsor),  Microsoft (Expo Plus Sponsor),  Lightstreamer (Exhibitor Plus Sponsor),  IT Mill (Exhibitor Plus Sponsor), FrogLogic (Exhibitor Plus Sponsor), ThinWire (Expo Sponsor), Quasar Tecnologies (Expo Sponsor), Zapatec (Exhibitor Plus Sponsor), MB Technologies Bindows (Exhibitor), OpenSpot (Exhibitor), ILOG (Exhibitor), Passport Corporation (Exhibitor), Addison-Wesley (Exhibitor), The Thomson Corporation (Exhibitor), Isomorphic Software-SmartClient (Exhibitor), Universal Mind (Exhibitor), Farata Systems (Exhibitor Plus),  Manning Publications (AJAX Book Sponsor), Apress (AJAX Book Sponsor), Conference Guru (Media Sponsor), Flash Goddess (Media Sponsor), AJAXWorld Magazine (Media Sponsor), Web 2.0 Journal (Media Sponsor), SYS-CON.TV (Media Sponsor), IT Mill (Media Sponsor), Methods & Tools (Media Sponsor), Web 2.0 Journal (Media Sponsor), and OASIS.

The Most Distinguished Conference Faculty of the Year
 AJAXWorld Conference & Expo 2007 East, which took place last March in New York City, featured more than 120 distinguished speakers who between them represent  the world's leading domain experts in designing, building, and deploying rich-web applications and solutions, including: Jan Aaleman - Servoy, Brad Abrams - Microsoft, Aaron Adams - Cynergy Systems, Mike Aizatsky - JetBrains, Dean Allemang - TopQuadrant, John F. Andrews - Evans Data Corp, Troy Angrignon - Business Objects, Jean-Francois Arcand - Sun, Robb Beal - Laszlo Systems, Scott Blum - Google, Stowe Boyd - Blue Whale Labs, Bob Buffone - Nexaweb, Alex Bunardzic - Jooto, Kurt Cagle - Cagle Communications, Andre Charland - Nitobi, Christophe Coenraets - Adobe, Dan Cornell - Open Web Application Security Project, Douglas Crockford - Yahoo!, John Crupi - JackBe, Luis Derechin - JackBe, Nima Dilmaghani - Microsoft, John Eckman - Optaros, John Fallows - Brane Corporation, Jon Ferraiolo - OpenAjax Alliance, Jeremy Geelan - SYS-CON Media, Joshua Gertzen - ThinWire, Rob Gonda - iChameleon, Robert Goodman - IBM, Chris Gruber - IBM, Aaron Gustafson - easy-reader.net, Andi Gutmans - Zend, Kris Hadlock - krishadlock.com, Kevin Hakman - TIBCO, James Harmon - Object Training Group, Dion Hinchcliffe - Hinchcliffe & Co./AJAXWorld Magazine, Billy Hoffman - SPI Dynamics, Molly E. Holzschlag - Molly.com, Kevin Hoyt - Adobe, Jonas Jacobi - Brane Corporation, Nathan Jakubiak - Parasoft, Ajit Jaokar - Futuretext, Karl Johnson - Cynergy Systems, TJ Kang - ThinkFree, Antun Karlovac - Laszlo Systems, Ritu Khanna - University of Michigan, Gavin King - JBoss/Red Hat, Riccardo La Rosa - Molecular, Jonathan Levin - JADE, Kent Libbey - Laszlo Systems, David Linthicum - The Linthicum Group, Kito Mann - JSF Central, Stephen Maryka - ICEsoft, Craig McClanahan - Sun, Eric Miraglia - Yahoo!, Greg Murray - Sun, Jim Phelan - Stream57, Jouk Pleiter - Backbase, Mike Potter - Adobe, Peggy Rackstraw - Laszlo Systems, Hooman Radfar - Clearspring Technologies, Juho Risku - Helmi Technologies, Gordon Ritter - Emergence Capital Partners, Steve Rubel - "Micropersuasion", Adam Sah - Google, Bruno Schaeffer - Canoo Engineering, Chris Schalk - Google, Dylan Schiemann - Sitepen / Dojo Foundation, Neil Sequeira - General Capital Partners, Seshubabu Simhadri - Global Computer Enterprises, Bret Simister - Laszlo Systems, Ric Smith - Oracle, Reginald Stadlbauer - froglogic, Joe Stagner - MIcrosoft, Ryan Stout - Freewebs, Yuval Tarsi - Serendipity Technologies, David Temkin - Laszlo Systems, Edward H. Trager - University of Michigan, Tony Tran - Roundarch, Andrew Trice - Cynergy Systems, Walker - Getahead / DWR, Coach Wei - Nexaweb, Dustin Whittle - Yahoo!, Dave Wolf -Cynergy Systems, Adam Wolff - Laszlo Systems, Bob Zurek - IBM.

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Ever since Google popularized a smarter, more responsive and interactive Web experience by using AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript + XML) for its Google Maps & Gmail applications, SYS-CON's RIA News Desk has been covering every aspect of Rich Internet Applications and those creating and deploying them. If you have breaking RIA news, please send it to [email protected] to share your product and company news coverage with AJAXWorld readers.

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radixweb 08/14/08 09:33:40 AM EDT

Post About New Technologies.........

radixweb 08/13/08 09:28:40 AM EDT


Great Post.........


radixweb 08/13/08 08:51:57 AM EDT

Normally web 2.0 is for connecting people communications. As a technologies Ajax and web2.0 is good.

Jeremiah Owyang 09/03/07 10:55:43 AM EDT

Great coverage of all the voices. Let's put my thoughts into perspective.

"web 2.0" or whatever we want to call this movement is more than technology. Sure, AJAX has it's place, as does RSS, MP3s and HTML.

What really matters is that people are connecting with other people with ease. Communities are forming and barriers are becoming translucent, if not transparent.

The web, social media, and web 2.0 is about people connecting with other people.

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