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"Application Server Shoot-Out" at Upcoming Web Services Edge Conference Announced

"Application Server Shoot-Out" at Upcoming Web Services Edge Conference Announced

SYS-CON Events announced the 11th Annual SOAWorld Conference & Expo will feature SYS-CON.TV's "App Server Shootout."

"The industry's continued emphasis on application integration, particularly with legacy systems, has really helped drive application servers into the heart of the enterprise," said Grisha Davida, president of SYS-CON Events, the show's producer. "Developers and IT managers alike are always asking exactly how the different application servers stack up. They want to know which ones support the latest WS-I specifications, which ones have the best performance, and - perhaps most importantly - which ones allow their developers to be the most productive. We will have vendor representatives from all the leading application server companies, including the emerging open source ones like JBoss and JOnAS."

Invited shootout participants include BEA (WebLogic), Borland (Borland Enterprise Server), IBM (WebSphere), JBoss (JBoss Application Server), JOnAS (Java Open Application Server), Macromedia (JRun), Microsoft (IIS/ASP.NET), Oracle (Oracle Application Server 10g), Orion (Orion Application Server), Sun (Sun Java System Application Server), and Sybase (EAServer).

"Once the J2EE developers see how much more productive they can be on the .NET platform," said Derek Ferguson, editor-in-chief of SYS-CON's .NET Developer's Journal, "I am sure they will all decide to run their next application on Microsoft's platform!"

"Performance is what matters," responded Ajit Sagar, founding editor of SYS-CON's XML-Journal and J2EE industry expert, on behalf of the editorial board of JDJ. "The developer productivity benefits are largely the same from one application server to the next - they are all just software containers tricked out with all the tedious application plumbing no one wants to write plus a runtime environment that enables components to be used by multiple applications."

The occasion will be a unique opportunity to learn firsthand and on-site which app servers support the latest WS-I standards and how they compare in terms of how many transactions they can handle, how many lines of code they require, how they react to simulated network and hardware failures and a whole range of other metrics.

"Even though Microsoft, IBM, and BEA have the lion's share of the market there are many viable app-server alternatives that offer excellent performance and ROI metrics for specific situations. As application servers are not a one-size-fits-all proposition, you will be in a position to find out at the Boston show which application server fits your specific performance and ROI metrics best," explained Davida.

The live shootout will be held in Boston's Hynes Convention Center during the second day of Web Services Edge and will be moderated by SYS-CON editor Jack Martin. More than 3,000 delegates from around the world are expected to attend this year's conference and expo. Participating teams can contact the event management by e-mail at [email protected]. Rules of the shootout will be set by the editorial board members of SYS-CON's magazines.


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    Jeremy Geelan is Chairman & CEO of the 21st Century Internet Group, Inc. and an Executive Academy Member of the International Academy of Digital Arts & Sciences. Formerly he was President & COO at Cloud Expo, Inc. and Conference Chair of the worldwide Cloud Expo series. He appears regularly at conferences and trade shows, speaking to technology audiences across six continents. You can follow him on twitter: @jg21.

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    Gabriel Lamounier 12/02/04 01:17:48 PM EST

    Could some one invite Apple. I think it would be a perfect oportunity for WebObjects to show off

    Tom Termini 10/22/04 10:12:09 AM EDT

    I am sure Apple would be more than happy to go toe-to-toe with all the vendors listed... WebObjects is more than a match for them, costs $700, runs on Windoze, OS X, Solaris and Linux, and, oh yeah, invented the web application category. Thank you NeXT.
    http://www.apple.com/webobjects

    William Awakenings 09/19/04 08:48:13 PM EDT

    An important facet of the whole performance game is TCO - what do the vendors offer the total solution with application servers at?

    Does the hardware come free with the server, or does the software come free? Or is it a subscription based model?
    Does the hardware and software come free, only an agreement to have Consulting Services need to be made?

    These are some of the more important questions one needs to answer - so what if Appserver-A is 5% faster than Appserver-B??

    Bob Hablutzel 08/19/04 02:23:59 PM EDT

    I suppose it is somewhat interesting to see what the performance of these server is. I *yawn* suppose.

    Look, the biggest problem with these servers isn''t raw performance. It''s that they are becoming increasingly unstable as more and more features are crammed in faster and faster to keep up with this kind of "do they have feature XXX" shootout. I can deal with 50% worse performance with double the boxes, which is barely a ripple in the budget. I can''t deal with systems that go out for days at a time, that can''t be tuned except by level-3 support people (in production), or with development "standards" that are obsolete six months later.

    The "simulated network and hardware failures" is the most interesting part of this, but, I suspect, will also be the most glossed over. However, most of the failures these days aren''t at the network or machine level. It''s the app servers themselves failing. How will this "shootout" deal with that?

    Editor 08/19/04 12:59:53 PM EDT

    Update:

    Pramati joins app-server shoot-out, confirms their participation.

    http://www.pramati.com/index.jsp

    Eric 08/19/04 10:55:41 AM EDT

    If you really want to hold an application server shootout, bring in Macromedia''s ColdFusion MX server and New Atlanta''s Blue Dragon products. They bring all the benefits and performance of J2EE, plus the rapid development benefits of CFML. Including .NET but excluding other, similar, Enterprise-class application servers does a disservice to those who are really interested in an objective comparison.

    Derek Ferguson 08/19/04 10:20:10 AM EDT

    Answering Miguel:

    Our XBanywhere server (http://www.XB.com) runs under Tomcat on Linux, Solaris, and Windows. We created it using JBuilder and Intelli-J IDEA. While I will grant you that IDEA has some great re-factoring features, by-and-large the developer productivity I''ve experienced on the J2EE platform has only been a fraction of the productivity I''ve had under .NET. And VS.NET, unlike IDEA, doesn''t pause for 30 seconds every few minutes while the garbage collector runs. :-)

    Editor 08/19/04 09:10:00 AM EDT

    Answering John McKay:

    Minutes after the press announcement of our invitation yesterday, Oracle and IBM teams contacted us for immediate details. We are in the process of formally inviting all companies mentioned in this release.

    "in hopes to force the vendors to sign up as sponsors?!?!"

    I don''t recall any mention of "sponsorship" in the invitation. You don''t need to subscribe to a magazine to send an article proposal, you don''t need to advertise to nominate your product in readers'' choise awards, or sponsor the show to participate at the shoot-out, you just need an invitation in this case. (I believe most of these companies have been participating at the Edge show for years anyway.)

    If you are in one of the invited teams and don''t have the travel budget, we can even organize a fund raiser for you. :-) If any team declines our invitation, we don''t think the reason will be "no money for travel."

    dbajohn 08/19/04 08:35:47 AM EDT

    I know it won''t happen but it would be nice if the results of the shootout were published so the world would know. Folks on tight budgets that can''t attend will never know what happened. Too bad for the industry.

    Miguel 08/19/04 03:53:20 AM EDT

    I wonder if Mr. Derek Ferguson ever tried other developer tool beside MS Visual Studio .Net?
    Did he runs ever a Web app. in Linux or Unix?
    Hi Mr. Derek Ferguson, please see BEA WebLogic Workshop, that´s the integrated Service Environment tool that you looking for.

    John McKay 08/18/04 08:07:53 PM EDT

    Did they even notify any of these companies before announcing this? Or is this just a surprise broadside in hopes to force the vendors to sign up as sponsors?!?!

    John Matthew 08/18/04 07:25:26 PM EDT

    Anyone remebers which company won this year? I know one of the rules of the competition was the winner could not publicize the results

    http://www.sys-con.com/2001/PR/code.cfm?page=06242002

    I remember these shoot-outs get very tense for the teams on stage but they also throw a lot of goodies to the audience. Gee the last shoot-out I went to was like the superbowl, I came home with 8 t-shirts!

    What are the rules and details? 08/18/04 06:02:31 PM EDT

    This "app server shoot-out" reference from 1999 is interesting:

    http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/AppServerShootout.html

    It requires a level playing field for all participating companies.

    Tortellini 08/18/04 05:44:20 PM EDT

    I am guessing the SYS-CON Media invitation will be treated as spam. If I were one of the listed companies I would not waste money amusing the publishers of this rag.

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